lördag 9 januari 2010

Ulf Ekman consult Charles Whitehead from NSC and ICCR the Vatican messenger!

Ulf Ekman consult Charles Whitehead from NSC and ICCR the Vatican messenger!

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Here we see how Ulf Ekman and the pentecostals are consulting the Vatican stool!


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Hos 10:4 They have spoken words, swearing falsely in making a covenant: thus judgment springeth up as hemlock in the furrows of the field.

2Mo 23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.

2Mo 23:33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.


2Mo 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

2Mo 23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:


2Mo 23:3 Neither shalt thou countenance a poor man in his cause.

2Mo 23:4 If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.

2Mo 23:5 If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him.

2Mo 23:6 Thou shalt not wrest the judgment of thy poor in his cause.

2Mo 23:7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.

2Mo 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.

2Mo 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Charles Whitehead part of Vatican Team in Talks with non-Denominational Leaders

September/October 2008

Charles Whitehead, a member of the English NSC and past president of ICCRS, who has been involved in building relationships with leaders across the denominational spectrum for many years, has had his expertise recognised.

Last April he was part of a team of four, who included Bishop Brian Farrell and Mgr Juan Usma from the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity) and Fr James Puglisi from Centro Pro Unione in Rome, who had “a Preliminary conversation” with five leaders from the non-denominational churches.

These leaders included Pastor Ulf Ekman from Sweden and John Noble from England, Dr Eric Belcher, Dr Lonnie Laughlin and Dr John Cathart from the USA. “Preliminary Conversations” are seen as a preparatory stage to proper official dialogues, which the Catholic Church already has with the major denominations including the Pentecostal Church.

It has been difficult in the past for the Catholic Church to be in dialogue with the non-denominational stream in the body of Christ, because of its lack of a recognised world wide leadership structure and the existence of multiple streams. These meetings, however, are a sign of the Catholic Church’s eagerness to be in relationship with this grouping of Christians.

It also highlights the role that members of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal have had in helping to facilitate this, particularly Charles Whitehead, who is currently the co-chairman of Charismata, an ecumenical network of leaders in the UK.

The theme of the conversation focused on confessional identity, understood in terms of self-understanding and the concept of Christian unity.

The positive outcome of the meeting led to the decision to meet again in Rome in April 2009.

Talks – Consultation, Meeting, Discussion, talk, session, conference, meeting, chat, talk, conversation, debate, dialogue, discourse, exchange of ideas, channel of communication, interchange, exchange, transaction, swap, swapping, substitution, replacement, switch, exchange, changeover, swap,Trade, Deal, Buy and sell, Do business, Operate, Traffic, Skill, Job, Employment, Craft, Line of work, Occupation, Profession, Vocation, Exchange, Swap, Barter, Change, Commerce, Business, Dealings, Exchange, Industry, Traffic, Custom, Market, Customers, Patrons, Clientele, Public, trade off, crossing point, junction, intersection, discussion, information flow,

Leaders – Best, Cream of the crop, superior, greater, bigger, higher, more, advanced, improved, a cut above, enhanced, worse, excellent, exclusive, first-class, untouchable, expert, exceptional, outstanding, inferior, upper, higher, over, above, arrogant, haughty, condescending, disdainful, patronizing, supercilious, stuck-up, aloof, aristocratic, pompous, self-important, boss, manager, chief, elder, better, senior, director, supervisor, leader, inferior, pompous, conceited, arrogant, self-opinionated, overbearing, overconfident, full of yourself, vain, self-satisfied, self-centered self-absorbed, egocentric, pompous, self-important, top-drawer, Selected, Select few, Privileged, Influential,

Faciliate - make easy, ease, smooth the progress of, cause, bring about, produce, lead to, end in, result in, make happen, create, bring, beget effect, initiate, set in motion, start, embark on, initiate, activate, create, launch, inaugurate, produce, make possible, cause, help, aid, assist,

Confessional – konfessionella, bekännelse, erkännande, bekänna, erkänna, bikta, tillstå, medge, tillåt, bevilja, ge tillstånd till, ge möjlighet till, gå med på, håll med om, vidgå, avslöja, röja, avslöja, förråda, omtala, lägga i dagen, ådagalägga, antyda, visa, odla upp, bryta mark, hugga, gallra, städa, upprensa, rensa upp, rensa bort, våldgästa, vandalisera, blotta, demaskera, yppa, tala om, röj, blotta, demaskera, yppa, berätta, meddela, erkänna, bekännelsebikt, biktstol, bekännelsetrogna, ortodoxa, renläriga, rättrogna, rättrogna, dogmatiska, fanatiska, ofördragsamma, stränga, bigotta,

Identy – identifiera sig, fastställa identitet av, likhet, överensstämmelse, identifiera sig med, helt gå upp i, leva sig in i, konstruerar (tecknad) bild, identitet identitets/dödsbricka, legitimations/papper, identification mark, parade – konfrontering,

Terms - conditions, state of affairs, status, position, stipulations, provisos, provisions, requisites, basics , fundamentals , prerequisites , nuts and bolts , brass tacks, basics, essentials, nitty-gritty, crux of the matter, basics details, basics, ABC, practicalities, fundamentals, details, foundations, rudiments, language, expressions, vocabulary, terminology, term, jargon, lingo,

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Luther on ecumenism and papacy

History of the Papacy by J.A. Wylie: "...the Church (so-called) of Rome has no right to rank amongst Christian Churches. She is not a Church, neither is her religion the Christian religion. We are accustomed to speak of Popery as a corrupt form of Christianity. We concede too much. The Church of Rome bears the same relation to the Church of Christ which the hierarchy of Baal bore to the institute of Moses; and Popery stands related to Christianity only in the same way in which Paganism stood related to primeval Revelation. Popery is not a corruption simply, but a transformation. It may be difficult to fix the time when it passed from the one into the other; but the change is incontestible. Popery is the gospel transubstantiated into the flesh and blood of Paganism, under a few of the accidents of Christianity."

Martin Luther

Just as in the days of the Apostles, so at this day we are forced to hear from certain denominations that we (by our obstinacy to adhere to the truth) do offend against love and unity in the churches, because we reject their doctrine. It would be better (they say) that we should let it pass, especially since the doctrine in dispute is what they call non-essential, and, therefore (they say) to stir up so great a discord and contention in the church over one or two doctrines (and those not the most important ones) is unfruitful and unnecessary.

To this I reply: Cursed be that love and unity which cannot be preserved except at the peril of the word of God.

Just as in the days of the Apostles, so at this day we are forced to hear from certain denominations that we (by our obstinacy to adhere to the truth) do offend against love and unity in the churches, because we reject their doctrine. It would be better (they say) that we should let it pass, especially since the doctrine in dispute is what they call non-essential, and, therefore (they say) to stir up so great a discord and contention in the church over one or two doctrines (and those not the most important ones) is unfruitful and unnecessary.

To this I reply: Cursed be that love and unity which cannot be preserved except at the peril of the word of God.

The negotiation about doctrinal agreement displeases me altogether, for this is utterly impossible unless the pope has his papacy abolished. Therefore avoid and flee those who seek the middle of the road. Think of me after I am dead and such middle-of-the-road men arise, for nothing good will come of it. There can be no compromise. (What Luther Says, II: 1019)

Ah, my dear brother in Christ, bear with me if here or elsewhere I use such coarse language when speaking of the wretched, confronted, atrocious monster at Rome! He who knows my thoughts must say that I am much, much, much too lenient and have neither words nor thought adequately to describe the shameful, abominable blasphemy to which he subjects the Word and name of Christ, our dear Lord and Savior. There are some Christians, wicked Christians indeed, who now would gloss things over to make the pope appear against in a good light and who, after he does so and has been dragged out of the mud, would like to reinstate him on the altar. But they are wicked people, whoever they may be, who defend the pope and want me to be quiet about the means whereby he has done harm. Truly, I cannot do this. All true, pious Christians, who love Christ and His Word, should, as said, be sincerely hostile to the pope. They should persecute him and injure him…. All should do this in their several calling, to the best of their ability, with all faithfulness and diligence. (What Luther Says, II: 1072)

What kind of a church is the pope’s church? It is an uncertain, vacillating and tottering church. Indeed, it is a deceitful, lying church, doubting and unbelieving, without God’s Word. For the pope with his wrong keys teaches his church to doubt and to be uncertain. If it is a vacillating church, then it is not the church of faith, for the latter is founded upon a rock, and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it (Matt.16:18). If it is not the church of faith, then it is not the Christian church, but it must be an unchristian, anti-Christian, and faithless church which destroys and ruins the real, holy, Christian church. (Luther’s Works, vol. 40, Church and Ministry II, The Keys, p.348)

All this is to be noted carefully, so that we can treat with contempt the filthy, foolish twaddle that the popes present in their decrees about their Roman church, that is, about their devil’s synagogue (Rev.2:9), which separates itself from common Christendom and the spiritual edifice built up on this stone, and instead invents for itself a fleshly worldly, worthless, lying, blasphemous, idolatrous authority over all of Christendom. One of these two things must be true: if the Roman church is not built on this rock along with the other churches, then it is the devil’s church; but if it is built, along with all the other churches, on this rock, then it cannot be lord or head over the other churches. For Christ the cornerstone knows nothing of two unequal churches, but only of one church alone, just as the Children’s Faith, that is, the faith of all of Christendom, says, ”I believe in one holy, Christian church,” and does not say, ”I believe in one holy Roman church.” The Roman church is and should be one portion or member of the holy Christian church, not the head, which befits solely Christ the cornerstone. If not, it is not a Christian but an UN-Christian and anti-Christian church, that is, a papal school of scoundrels. (Luther’s Works, Volume 41, Church and Ministry III, Against The Roman Papacy, An Institution Of The Devil, p.311)



I believe the pope is the masked and incarnate devil because he is the Antichrist. As Christ is God incarnate, so the Antichrist is the devil incarnate. The words are really spoken of the pope when its said that hes a mixed god, an earthly god, that is , a god of the earth. Here god is understood as god of this world. Why does he call himself an earthly god, as if the one, almighty God werent also on the earth? The kingdom of the pope really signifies the terrible wrath of God, namely, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. (Luthers Works, vol.54, Table Talks, No.4487, p.346)


C. H. Spurgeon on Popery


"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the Popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. It wounds Christ, robs Christ of His glory, puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread in the place of the Saviour....If we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors; we shall love their souls, though we loathe and detest their dogmas...."

-- C. H. Spurgeon


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Heb 11:25 Han ville hellre utstå lidande med Guds folk än för en kort tid leva i syndig njutning;
Heb 12:2 Och må vi därvid se på Jesus, trons hövding och fullkomnare, på honom, som i stället för att taga den glädje som låg framför honom, utstod korsets lidande och aktade smäleken för intet, och som nu sitter på högra sidan om Guds tron.
Heb 12:3 Ja, på honom, som har utstått så mycken gensägelse av syndare, på honom mån I tänka, så att I icke tröttnen och uppgivens i edra själar.
Heb 12:15 Och sen till, att ingen går miste om Guds nåd, och att ingen giftig rot skjuter skott och bliver till fördärv, så att menigheten därigenom bliver besmittad;
Heb 12:16 sen till, att ingen är en otuktig människa eller ohelig såsom Esau, han som för en enda maträtt sålde sin förstfödslorätt.
Heb 12:17 I veten ju att han ock sedermera blev avvisad, när han på grund av arvsrätt ville få välsignelsen; han kunde nämligen icke vinna någon ändring, fastän han med tårar sökte därefter.
Heb 10:36 I behöven nämligen ståndaktighet för att kunna göra Guds vilja och få vad utlovat är.
Heb 10:37 Ty "ännu en helt liten tid, så kommer den som skall komma, och han skall icke dröja;
Heb 10:38 och min rättfärdige skall leva av tro. Men om någon drager sig undan, så finner min själ icke behag i honom".
Heb 10:39 Dock, vi höra icke till dem som draga sig undan, sig själva till fördärv; vi höra till dem som tro och så vinna sina själar.

Ord 25:26 Såsom en grumlad källa och en fördärvad brunn, så är en rättfärdig som vacklar inför den ogudaktige.

Upp 3:16 Men nu, då du är ljum och varken varm eller kall, skall jag utspy dig ur min mun.

Se Ljum, sammanblandad, mixad, förväxlad, utbytt, utväxlad, ersatt, avlöst, efterträdd, liknöjd, likgiltig!

2Ti 4:7 Jag har kämpat den goda kampen, jag har fullbordat mitt lopp, jag har bevarat tron.
2Ti 4:8 Nu ligger rättfärdighetens segerkrans tillreds åt mig, och Herren, den rättfärdige domaren, skall giva den åt mig på "den dagen", och icke åt mig allenast, utan åt alla som hava älskat hans tillkommelse.

Jesus HATES the deeds of the Nicolaitiane, which I also hate.

Rev. 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitianes, which I also hate. Nicolaitianes -To conquer the people or laity, these "deeds" had become in Pergamos a "doctrine" (Rev. 2:15)

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